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How strong is future trunks ssj 1 and 2?; Every fight in super there's a question in power levels!
Topic Started: Jun 26 2016, 05:01 PM (12,106 Views)
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To the contrary, the Saiyans' zenkais just become so minuscule upon achieving Super Saiyan that it's as if they stop getting them. It's never once stated or implied in the show or supplemental material that zenkais completely stopped.
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Before we gauge future Trunks power lets put all information about him on the plate



He's half Saiyan and therefore brewing with potential

Gohan said that Kid Goten and Trunks have as much potential as him and could even surpass him one day

Zenkai still exists after ssj form achievement(cell has ssj aura but still had zenkai and ssg goku got a zenkai against Beerus

Saiyans get stronger as they fight and can close the gap as they keep fighting according to Toryama in the bog interview


Ok now after Trunks defeated Dabura Im sure he didn't slack of like Gohan

Subs seem to confirm that Trunks and Black have been going at it for a whole year
And we know on field experience>training


Trunks being in a totally different league than z Ssj 2's makes hella sense


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@Before we gauge future Trunks power lets put all information about him on the plate

He's half Saiyan and therefore brewing with potential

Gohan said that Kid Goten and Trunks have as much potential as him and could even surpass him one day

Zenkai still exists after ssj form achievement(cell has ssj aura but still had zenkai and ssg goku got a zenkai against Beerus

Saiyans get stronger as they fight and can close the gap as they keep fighting according to Toryama in the bog interview


Ok now after Trunks defeated Dabura Im sure he didn't slack of like Gohan

Subs seem to confirm that Trunks and Black have been going at it for a whole year
And we know on field experience>training


Trunks being in a totally different league than z Ssj 2's makes hella sense


Hella sense@

->Hmm. Hmm.<-

@And we know on field experience>training

->Explain then why Future Trunks was/is then still seen as a Green in the eyes of Cell,Vegeta and Goku, and why he was not in a "complete different league" than the other SSJ's back in the start of the android arc? Hell, by that logic then Future Gohan with 13 years of fighting the androids should be around his Cell Games counterpart.<-
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Trunks was called a novice by Cell for not recognizing the flaw in USSJ earlier. Something that both Goku and Vegeta picked up on a lot quicker. Casual reminder that when Cell got frustrated with SSJ2 Gohan, he also went to a USSJ type form to try to overpower Gohan, but couldn't hit him.

In terms of powers, Trunks was considered almost as strong as Vegeta post their 1st time in the ROSAT. When Vegeta and Trunks fought in the Cell Games, they were the only two people capable of defending themselves from the Cell Jrs. The Cell Jrs each said to be as strong as Initial Perfect Cell. That's still inferior to FP Perfect Cell, MSSJ Goku and MSSJ Gohan, but Trunks wasn't a complete chump.

If Trunks did keep training in his future, then he very well could have defeated Dabura and have a PL comparable to Goku and Vegeta of that era.
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Why would he even need the help of the Z Fighters if he gets stronger by running from people who want to kill him? This makes his trouble with the Androids look ridiculous
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We didnt say that he is around the God tier fighters.

He could possible above the Buu arc fighters, yet way below God Goku&Vegeta.
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Amerson26
Jun 26 2016, 10:08 PM
Idk if that was the case why goku turn ssj against frost? And what about the time he was fighting Frieza in his base form? Which freza one shot gohan in first form. Which made everything confusion.
Frost in his third Form is more powerful then Frezia is in his final form even after four months of training.

Frost is more powerful then Frezia when you compare their four transformations. The only edge Frezia has over Frost is that the latter lacks an Golden Mode.

Had Frost had that, he could have easily forced Goku to transform into a Super Sayian Blue.

Frost is well above the level of Cell, Buu, and even post-revival Frezia outside of his Golden Form.

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Judau Ashtha
Jun 29 2016, 05:19 AM
@Before we gauge future Trunks power lets put all information about him on the plate

He's half Saiyan and therefore brewing with potential

Gohan said that Kid Goten and Trunks have as much potential as him and could even surpass him one day

Zenkai still exists after ssj form achievement(cell has ssj aura but still had zenkai and ssg goku got a zenkai against Beerus

Saiyans get stronger as they fight and can close the gap as they keep fighting according to Toryama in the bog interview


Ok now after Trunks defeated Dabura Im sure he didn't slack of like Gohan

Subs seem to confirm that Trunks and Black have been going at it for a whole year
And we know on field experience>training


Trunks being in a totally different league than z Ssj 2's makes hella sense


Hella sense@

->Hmm. Hmm.<-

@And we know on field experience>training

->Explain then why Future Trunks was/is then still seen as a Green in the eyes of Cell,Vegeta and Goku, and why he was not in a "complete different league" than the other SSJ's back in the start of the android arc? Hell, by that logic then Future Gohan with 13 years of fighting the androids should be around his Cell Games counterpart.<-
Its obviously a different case this time around. Plot does play with character progress and inflation. For example Piccolo after a year in the rosat in the cell saga only got to near cell jr tier. Butt slight training in dbs put him at a level high enough where his special beam cannon could peirce a barrier Champas casual blast couldn't.
Future Gohan again a different case victim to plot however he was no weakling his base form could take on ssj trunks. The androids also toyed with Gohan seemingly till they decided to kill him. In dbs its not rare to have severe gains that wouldn't happen in z in short times. And the androids<<<<cell games Gohan<<<<<<<<<Black
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Timothy
Jun 29 2016, 09:06 PM
Judau Ashtha
Jun 29 2016, 05:19 AM
@Before we gauge future Trunks power lets put all information about him on the plate

He's half Saiyan and therefore brewing with potential

Gohan said that Kid Goten and Trunks have as much potential as him and could even surpass him one day

Zenkai still exists after ssj form achievement(cell has ssj aura but still had zenkai and ssg goku got a zenkai against Beerus

Saiyans get stronger as they fight and can close the gap as they keep fighting according to Toryama in the bog interview


Ok now after Trunks defeated Dabura Im sure he didn't slack of like Gohan

Subs seem to confirm that Trunks and Black have been going at it for a whole year
And we know on field experience>training


Trunks being in a totally different league than z Ssj 2's makes hella sense


Hella sense@

->Hmm. Hmm.<-

@And we know on field experience>training

->Explain then why Future Trunks was/is then still seen as a Green in the eyes of Cell,Vegeta and Goku, and why he was not in a "complete different league" than the other SSJ's back in the start of the android arc? Hell, by that logic then Future Gohan with 13 years of fighting the androids should be around his Cell Games counterpart.<-
Its obviously a different case this time around. Plot does play with character progress and inflation. For example Piccolo after a year in the rosat in the cell saga only got to near cell jr tier. Butt slight training in dbs put him at a level high enough where his special beam cannon could peirce a barrier Champas casual blast couldn't.
Future Gohan again a different case victim to plot however he was no weakling his base form could take on ssj trunks. The androids also toyed with Gohan seemingly till they decided to kill him. In dbs its not rare to have severe gains that wouldn't happen in z in short times. And the androids<<<<cell games Gohan<<<<<<<<<Black
We aren't saying it hasn't happened in dbs, we're saying it's stupid. God tier seemed unattainable and rare, then Freeza, Cabba, Frost and Trunks do it on their own?
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